Showing posts with label arkansas. Show all posts
Showing posts with label arkansas. Show all posts

07 October 2013

William Newton Morris

I got a huge lead this week from an obituary that was posted online. The obit was for Ethel Marie Gage Morris Yancey. She was married to Orville Merian Morris. Orville was the youngest son of William Newton Morris and Mary Adline "Mamie" Witcher. William Newton Morris and my 2nd Great Grandfather, James Robert Morris, were brothers.

Ethel Gage Morris Yancey
(Photo by MACW)

The obituary, dated 1995, listed four surviving children, all residing in Arkansas. With the help of whitepages.com, I decided to see if I could find a phone number for any of the kids that were listed in the obit. I called a number listed for one of the sons and no one answered the phone. So, I looked for a number for the other son and, sure enough, someone said, "Hello."

Now, I'm not a big fan of making 'cold calls,' because you never know how they are going to go. Thoughts went through my mind, like, "These people aren't going to talk to me. They're probably too busy. They're going to think I'm crazy. Nobody does this." But, I've found, the more you make them, the easier they are to make.

I said, "Hello, is this Dub?" The aged voice on the other end said, "Yes, who is this?" I told him my name and that I thought we were related. He was immediately interested and wanted to know the connection. I told him that our great grandfathers were brothers and verified with him the links from them to us. He was able to confirm my suspicions.

Dub is 77 years old and never knew much about the Morris family. It turns out that his parents divorced when he was young and his dad moved off to Florida and his mother remained in Arkansas. I gathered that Orville didn't have much to do with his family after he moved away. Therefore, Dub never learned about his fathers side of the family.

Our conversation went on for the next twenty minutes, or so, and in the end, Dub was very thankful that I gave him a call.

Moral of the story: don't be afraid to pick up the phone and make that call! You never know what you'll learn.

William Newton Morris with Grandchildren
(Photo by gailg500)



20 August 2011

Sometimes You Get What You Pay For!

For several years I have been researching information about my 4th Great Grandfather, William Thomas Morris. His trail ends with the 1880 census (like so many others) in Mayfield, Graves, Kentucky. I have no death or burial information for him or his wife, Sarah Goad.

One thing that I have been able to do, with some success, is find information about his children. I have ten of them recorded. Of the ten, I have been successful finding sufficient records for five of them. I wanted to share some insights to how I found information for these. Maybe I can work backwards and find more information for William and Sarah.

According the 1880 census, William's youngest daughter, Celestia, was born in Arkansas in 1873. At the time her and her family were living in Graves County, Kentucky. That's were, until recently, the trail ended for her. Naturally, I would spend the vast majority of my energy looking for her in Kentucky.

A few weeks ago I was contacted by a guy through a message on Ancestry that asked if I had information on a Selestia Garner whose maiden name was Morris. He said that she was born on 20 Jan 1874, possibly in Kentucky. This immediately sounded good to me. Maybe this was my Celestia. I sent him the limited information that I had for her and he sent me his information. But, I still was not 100% convinced.

He also added that his died in Greene County, Arkansas in 1936. I was looking in the wrong place. This was making more and more sense to me. Sometime prior to the 1870 census, William moved his family to Arkansas. However, by 1874 (Celestia's birthday), the family was back in Kentucky. Over the next few years, some of the children moved back to Arkansas. Celestia's older brother, Jasper L., was one of them. I found him several years ago. He and his wife are buried in, you guessed it, Greene County, Arkansas. Why didn't I think of looking for Celestia in Arkansas a long time ago? I wish I would have!

When I do my research, I have to have facts. Some people are satisfied with possibilities, but that's not me. I want some proof. Sometimes that proof costs a little bit more money. But, to me, it's worth it. I went to VitalChek and ordered a death certificate for Selestia Garner. A few days later, I received the certificate in the mail and, sure enough, Celestia and Selestia was the same person. Her DC lists her father and mother as William Morris and Sallie Goad. Money!


What did I learn for this experience? Several things. First, when you run into a dead end, look to where siblings moved. Selestia wasn't born in Arkansas, so she really didn't have any connections there except for the fact that her older brother lived there. It turned out that's where she was. Second, messages and message boards work. Don't be afraid to send messages, even when you don't have a lot of information. The person who messaged me had very little information. He had a birthdate, maiden name, and a wrong place of birth... that's it. But, I was able to piece things together and in the end it really helped both of us out. Sometimes it ends good like this; more often it doesn't. But, it's always worth a shot. Last, sometimes you have to spend a little bit to get the answers you need. I place a lot of stock in death certificates. I have found that they rarely have incorrect information. Whereas census and other records are often wrong. In this situation, the death certificate sealed the deal and provided the answers that were needed.

While sometimes you have to pay for the good stuff, sometimes you can get lucky and find the information for free. My #1 free go to is FindAGrave! I love that website. I find as many family connections through email from FindAGrave as I do through Ancestry. I also just learned that if you need Texas death certificates, FamilySearch is your place to go. A lot of times I think that if it's not on Ancestry, it's probably not out there. I'm learning more and more that that's not true. Ancestry doesn't have very many, if any, Texas death certificates, but most of the ones that are available can be found for free on FamilySearch.


13 December 2010

Missing Piece Monday

Every genealogist comes to the place where the road simply stops. For me, the road stopped with my 4th Great Grandfather, William T. Morris.

What I do know is that William T. (possibly Thomas) was born abt 1829 in either Tennessee or Kentucky (depending on which source you are looking at). In the late 1860s he moved his family from Graves Co., to Independence Co., Arkansas. For the past two years that is all the information that I could find.

I have researched libraries from Graves Co., KY, to Batesville, AR, looking for any information that I could find. I always came up empty-handed. The thought even crossed my mind to hire someone (a "professional") to help me out. But what kind of a researcher would I be if I let someone else do the work for me? So, for two years I have gone without any answers.

The 1870 US Census shows WT's family as:

William T Morris, 41
Sarah M Morris, 38
Caleb B Morris, 15
Mary Morris, 13
John F Morris, 12
Martha B Morris, 10
James R Morris, 8
William Morris, 7
Louisa J Morris, 2
Jasper E Morris, 2/12

I have only been able to find information for two of the children, James R. and Jasper E. James Robert was the easy one. He is my 3rd Great Grandfather. He was businessman in Graves Co., owning a small grocery store on West Broadway in Mayfield. The grocery store must have been outside the city limits as he is not listed in the City Directory in 1928 or 1930. More to come...